Episode 129
The truth about podcast editing: is it really worth your time?
After a decade in podcast production and millions of downloads across our client roster at Bamby Media, I can tell you this with absolute certainty: podcast editing can make or break your podcast's success.
I’ve judged countless podcasting awards such as The Webby’s, Australian Podcast Awards, Signal Awards, Independent Podcast Awards and I’ve heard the full gamut of podcast production.
We’ve also launched and worked on probably close to one thousand podcasts over the last decade here at Bamby Media and it’s clear that success lies in the details.
Before I begin this episode, let me caveat by saying that some podcasts can get away with very limited, or no editing. I understand this. What I’m about to share isn’t a blanket rule that every podcaster must follow. This is just what I’ve noticed more broadly for most podcasts.
CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00 The Crucial Role of Podcast Editing
00:38 First Impressions Matter
02:28 Respecting Your Listeners' Time
03:49 Sounding Professional
05:24 Enhancing Story Flow
06:57 Removing Distractions
07:38 Gaining a Competitive Edge
08:07 Protecting Your Brand
09:22 Improving Guest Experience
10:21 Monetization Potential
11:33 Ensuring Long-Term Success
12:59 Final Thoughts on Podcast Editing
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Transcript
This one thing can make or break the success of your podcast.
Speaker:And I'm not overstating this, I really believe this.
Speaker:I may be biased because we are in podcast production here at Bambi Media, but
Speaker:just bear with me for a minute, okay?
Speaker:Because I'm going to explain why I believe that podcast editing needs
Speaker:to be part of your workflow, part of your strategy for the growth.
Speaker:longevity, and overall enjoyment of your show for yourself and also your listeners.
Speaker:So, number one, first impressions really matter.
Speaker:And it's just like how people judge a book by their cover.
Speaker:I'll open it up and I'll read the first couple of pages and then decide whether
Speaker:I feel like the story is good or the way it's written is sort of in my flavor.
Speaker:And I'm judging it very quickly.
Speaker:Same thing goes for podcasting.
Speaker:So, if you package it nicely with a good podcast cover artwork, and then
Speaker:Someone clicks on it and they're like, Sweet, this really looks like it's
Speaker:something that I'm going to enjoy.
Speaker:It's very professional looking.
Speaker:And then they listen to it and they're like, Oh, this is a bit crap.
Speaker:You know, like they haven't edited it or the, and the audio is a
Speaker:bit hard to hear or it doesn't like, it doesn't sound very good.
Speaker:It's not matching that first impression that I got from the podcast cover artwork.
Speaker:It's falling a bit flat.
Speaker:Professional editing ensures that you hit the ground running with your most
Speaker:engaging, like the crispness, the content that's hooking the listeners immediately.
Speaker:And that is very important with podcasting because it's such a crowded space.
Speaker:There is so many ways, so many places that people can go to get exactly the
Speaker:same information a lot of the time here with Bamby Media with Pump Up Your Pod.
Speaker:I'm sure this episode has been done before by someone else, you know, telling
Speaker:you why you should do podcast editing.
Speaker:So it needs to be packaged in a way.
Speaker:It needs to be edited in a way that makes me different to someone
Speaker:else delivering the same thing.
Speaker:So it's important to understand that your first impression matters.
Speaker:So if you've got audio quality that's good and it's edited well, it's got some
Speaker:good EQ, some compression, you got rid of the crappy stuff at the beginning and
Speaker:the awkward silences, that's going to be the first hurdle that that person, that
Speaker:listener has to get over to then decide to stick with you for the long haul.
Speaker:Number two is I really want you to think about respecting your listeners time.
Speaker:I hear a lot of stuff, and I have been a judge on a lot of podcasting award shows.
Speaker:There's a lot of stuff where, you know, they're not doing it on purpose.
Speaker:They're not disrespecting their listener on purpose, but they really
Speaker:just haven't thought about the fact that if I'm clicking on something
Speaker:and I'm deciding to sit down and listen to it, I don't have all day.
Speaker:I don't even have maybe 30 minutes to try and get what I want out of
Speaker:this episode, to be entertained, to learn something new, whatever it is.
Speaker:So if you don't edit your stuff, you're not really respecting
Speaker:the time of the listener.
Speaker:They have decided that you're worth their time.
Speaker:By putting you in their ears, and then you're kind of losing that trust if
Speaker:they're sitting down and they're getting a bad experience for them, potentially,
Speaker:if it feels like it's taking too long to get to the point and you're not removing
Speaker:the distractions or the, you know, the background noises that are annoying and
Speaker:the car horns and the conversations that don't go anywhere, the bad questions with
Speaker:terrible answers, you know, there's a lot of stuff that you can remove in editing.
Speaker:that will keep your listener engaged and make them feel better about their decision
Speaker:to actually listen to your podcast.
Speaker:Number three, this seems obvious to me, but I mean, it's really
Speaker:important is you actually then just sound more professional.
Speaker:So if you take the time to actually edit your show, you are already so far above.
Speaker:All the stuff that isn't edited.
Speaker:So there's like the, the person that doesn't edit really at all.
Speaker:They just put it out there.
Speaker:Maybe they put an intro and outro music in there.
Speaker:The conversation is as is, and then they put it up.
Speaker:Then there's the step above your kind of DIYing it yourself.
Speaker:Or maybe you've got a VA that's like checking it over for you.
Speaker:You're not really going like.
Speaker:full on into their editing, but you're doing little bits
Speaker:and pieces to tighten it up.
Speaker:Maybe you're cutting things off the front and the end, maybe a
Speaker:little bit of stuff in the middle.
Speaker:That's better than nothing, but then the step above that, which most
Speaker:people don't do, and I can tell you that from All the things that I've
Speaker:listened to over the last decade, the market for people that actually edit
Speaker:their podcasts professionally, get it edited properly, is so much smaller.
Speaker:And so you're already sounding so much more professional than another person
Speaker:that's delivering similar content than you by actually editing it.
Speaker:Whether that's you learning the ropes really well and learning how to edit
Speaker:it yourself, hiring someone in your business to help you do that, that knows
Speaker:what they're doing, or outsourcing to someone like us, like Bambi Media or
Speaker:Podcast Production Service, having someone professionally go through your edits will
Speaker:help you sound way more professional.
Speaker:Number four is actually just enhancing the story flow.
Speaker:So you know how when you listen, and I definitely get this, when you're
Speaker:listening to some podcasts and they're interviewing people, and it's like,
Speaker:when are you going to get to the point?
Speaker:When am I going to get whatever the hook is, whatever the title of this
Speaker:episode is, that you've promised me, when am I going to get there?
Speaker:When are you going to deliver on the promise?
Speaker:If you don't edit It's very hard to enhance your story flow, unless you are
Speaker:a very good speaker, or you've really planned out your episodes beforehand,
Speaker:you've got a decent sort of script, you've got dot points, you're used to speaking,
Speaker:or you're interviewing people, you're very good at that, you've done it for a long
Speaker:time, you don't need to potentially edit.
Speaker:If you're like that, it's fine to not edit if that's the case.
Speaker:But most people aren't at that level, and so they need someone to help them.
Speaker:or to do it themselves to enhance the story, to not get sidetracked,
Speaker:to keep it moving on so that the story can actually develop and it
Speaker:feels like it's more of a thing.
Speaker:Same way that, you know, if you shoot a film, the film doesn't
Speaker:come out with, with no cuts in it.
Speaker:It doesn't come out with all the other stuff just in there.
Speaker:You have to put it together.
Speaker:You have to create the story in the most engaging way.
Speaker:Podcasting is no different.
Speaker:Editing will help you achieve that.
Speaker:Number five is something that we come across almost every day when we're
Speaker:editing podcasts, and that is removing those unexpected notifications and
Speaker:things that people have come up on their Computers, their phones are going
Speaker:off, the dog's barking, the postman comes and rings the doorbell, like the
Speaker:stuff like that, especially if you're recording from home, where, you know, a
Speaker:little bit of that's kind of endearing, but when it's happening all the time,
Speaker:you're getting like Slack notifications in the middle of your podcast episode.
Speaker:If you don't edit, it just sounds so unprofessional to leave all those
Speaker:things in, and I feel like that really cheapens the experience for the listener.
Speaker:Number six is something I've kind of already said, which is
Speaker:having that competitive edge.
Speaker:If you are producing a podcast that's of that higher caliber, that's
Speaker:actually edited, that sounds schmick, that has good audio quality, that's
Speaker:got all the annoying things removed, you're a step above a lot of people.
Speaker:Keep that in mind when you're thinking about, uh, you
Speaker:know, it costs money to edit.
Speaker:Yeah, but you're going to get a step above.
Speaker:A lot of people.
Speaker:Number seven is then brand protection.
Speaker:If you're trying to build a personal brand or you're trying to put forward
Speaker:your business brand on your podcast, if you don't edit your show, that
Speaker:cheapens your brand immediately.
Speaker:Someone's listening in and then they're hearing a bunch of noises and a bunch
Speaker:of sounds and it sounds low quality.
Speaker:They're immediately going to even subconsciously go.
Speaker:Man, these guys mustn't have much money.
Speaker:These guys must be a bit desperate or under resourced or something.
Speaker:It cheapens the brand.
Speaker:So you want to make your brand more of an all encompassing feeling by having
Speaker:every part, every touch point of your brand that someone comes across deliver
Speaker:in the same quality that they're used to seeing on all the other platforms.
Speaker:In saying that, like if your brand is scrappy, if it's like authentic
Speaker:and vulnerable, you could probably get away with no editing because they
Speaker:can see that across all your other avenues in maybe your newsletter or
Speaker:wherever you are showing up online.
Speaker:If that's all unedited, I, I can see that being an avenue that you could have.
Speaker:Also, your show not edited.
Speaker:Just remember, your brand is important, so the way you package
Speaker:your podcast should be similar to the way you're packaging everything else.
Speaker:Number eight is something that's going to make your guests feel
Speaker:a lot better, and that's just improving the guest experience.
Speaker:So if you've got a guest on your show and they're stumbling on their words
Speaker:or they have to retake an answer, you know, you've asked a question that they
Speaker:weren't comfortable with and they're kind of nervous and you can feel
Speaker:that, they're saying um all the time.
Speaker:If you don't edit it, that shines a light on those imperfections,
Speaker:and that can be okay.
Speaker:Like, maybe the guests would be fine with that.
Speaker:Maybe your show is like that.
Speaker:But for most people, especially if you're, you know, more of a
Speaker:hobbyist, or it's maybe more lower budget, your guests aren't used
Speaker:to being on podcasts necessarily.
Speaker:And so, if you don't edit them They're going to feel potentially a little bit bad
Speaker:when they listen back because it's like, Oh, I didn't sound very professional.
Speaker:I feel like I took too long to get to the point.
Speaker:You want to shine the best possible light on the guest to make their
Speaker:experience feel really happy too.
Speaker:Number nine is monetization potential.
Speaker:If you were a brand and someone reached out to you that had a
Speaker:podcast and they're like, Hey, I'd love for you to sponsor my show.
Speaker:I think that we're really well aligned.
Speaker:I'd love to make a partnership happen.
Speaker:If you then go, Oh, cool.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Maybe I am interested.
Speaker:Like they look pretty good.
Speaker:They've established themselves well here.
Speaker:I can see that their socials are pretty schmick.
Speaker:They've introduced themselves well.
Speaker:They've got a good pitch.
Speaker:Let me just go listen to their podcast.
Speaker:And it's not edited, and it sounds kind of amateurish.
Speaker:What do you think a sponsor's going to do with that, like a brand?
Speaker:They're less likely to want to be associated with a podcast that doesn't
Speaker:feel professional than they are with something that sounds schmick,
Speaker:that sounds like it's put together, that sounds like there's a bit of a
Speaker:team or some more to it behind it.
Speaker:Especially if you're trying to chase sponsors and brands and people to
Speaker:collaborate with, and even having people on your show, like getting other people
Speaker:on, if they tune in and they're like, oh, well, this doesn't sound very good.
Speaker:Why would they say yes?
Speaker:I might feel brutal to you, but I really feel like, why?
Speaker:Why would they say yes at that point?
Speaker:And number 10 is simply long term success.
Speaker:If you're consistently editing, every episode is of a high quality, then
Speaker:you're building trust with your audience.
Speaker:They know what to expect.
Speaker:It's going to be high quality.
Speaker:You're going to have engaging episodes.
Speaker:You're going to have good guests that feel like they really know
Speaker:what they're talking about as well.
Speaker:You're respecting the listener's time.
Speaker:You're delivering value.
Speaker:This consistency is going to grow that know, like, and trust that
Speaker:you're trying to establish through a podcast over a long period of time.
Speaker:That's where your superfans come from.
Speaker:That's where your referral engine comes from.
Speaker:That's where word of mouth spreads.
Speaker:It's from that consistent build over a long period of time,
Speaker:where your professionalism starts to pay off in other ways.
Speaker:So I want you to remember that your podcast is an investment in your
Speaker:brand, whether that's a personal brand, a business brand, a combination of
Speaker:the two, while raw unedited content, you know, certainly it's going to
Speaker:save you time initially, it could cost you an actual listenership.
Speaker:It might cost you an opportunities and credibility in the long run as well.
Speaker:Professional editing isn't just about removing mistakes.
Speaker:It's about crafting an experience that keeps your listeners
Speaker:engaged and coming back for more.
Speaker:So I hope that that was really helpful for you.
Speaker:Maybe I kicked you off the butt a little bit with this one, going,
Speaker:Uh, maybe I do need to do a bit more editing, or maybe I need to train my
Speaker:VA to do more than just the little bit of editing that they're doing now.
Speaker:Investing in these things, if you're really, truly trying to
Speaker:build through a podcast, editing needs to be part of the equation.
Speaker:Only caveat to that being, as I mentioned before, your whole brand
Speaker:is based on raw, authentic, unedited.
Speaker:Then, you don't need to edit, go and be free, you know, your listeners are already
Speaker:accepting that, they're already expecting that from you and you can see that with
Speaker:a lot of YouTubers too, where they just don't really edit anything and maybe
Speaker:they don't even have thumbnails anymore and they're just word vomiting for 30
Speaker:minutes and it's just not even touched.
Speaker:There's a space for that, but that's not a space for everybody to be.
Speaker:It depends on what you're trying to deliver, who you're trying to
Speaker:reach, and what you're trying to get out of the equation as well.
Speaker:That's it for me today.
Speaker:I hope you have a lovely day.